09怎么评价zsmj

第一部分：正文

Vici Gaming have turned from a team failed to qualify for ti3 eastern qualifier and wildcard qualifier to a team that top ti4 group stage and secured at least top 6 in ti4 in less than a year.

VG从去年连外卡赛都没打进的队伍（去年RS最后打外卡赛拿到最后一张门票进的ti3)只用了不到一年的时间转变成现在ti4小组第一的队伍，已经确保了前六的位置。

Looking at so many ZSMJ fans bragging how good zsmj is and how he is the big three Cs, VG success have apparently prove otherwise. And the funny thing is ZSMJ failed to qualify for ti4 again in hgt while ppl many still insist that it is because ZSMJ have bad teammates and it is not ZSMJ fault with fy and fenfir have definitely proven to be the top 3 support duos

很多ZSMJ的粉丝一直在大吹特吹他有多么多么好，他是三大C，VG的成功显然已经证明了并非如此。有趣的是今年的资格赛ZSMJ和他的hgt又失败了，很多人仍然坚持认为这是因为他没有好的队友即使FY和芬队已经绝对证明了他们是世界前三的辅助组合。

Last year VG had a line up with ZSMJ, CTY, XTT, fy, fenfir and this year with the replacement of ZSMJ with sylar, CTY with super and XTT with ROTK, VG have fully transformed from a tier 2 team fighting for qualification of TI to a chinese jaggeraunt and it is definitely ZSMJ that caused the VG in ti 3 to fail for the following reasons:

去年VG的阵容是ZSMJ CTY XTT FY fenfir，今年VG的一二三号位分别被塞拉 月如 XB取代。 VG完全从一只为资格赛奋斗的2线队伍转变成了中国队伍中的主宰，并且一下原因绝对可以证明ZSMJ就是造成VG在去年失败的原因。

2. ZSMJ love to bring his gang CTY and XTT around and in this yr ti4 qualifier, they actually booked KAKA out of the team a few weeks before ti4. And this lineup obiviously failed again. Thus showing that he fail as a leader and alway select the wrong ppl to the team and never realise that mistake and is a tumor to the team if act as a leader.

ZSMJ在今年的资格赛中带上了他的老队友CTY和XTT，实际上在ti4几周之前他们已经准备让卡卡离开队伍了。这次的配置又一次失败。ZSMJ作为一个领袖又一次失败并且经常挑选不合适的队员并且从来没有认识到所犯的错误。这样的领袖对于队伍来说就是一个毒瘤。

3. ZSMJ being the leader and pioneer member of LGD was forced into retirement by xiao8 and many netizens actually said xiao8 is being director 8 and yao being actor yao to act like they sucks in order to force zsmj out. But when we look at the replacement for lgd which is sylar and what happened to sylar post ti3, sylar definitely do not have close relationship with yao, xiao8 or the lgd gang and the reason why the lgd 4 man gang wanted to force zsmj out of the team is simply because zsmj is a noob which have more to his name then reality.

ZSMJ作为曾经LGD的队长和开拓者被下面8逼得退役，很多人都说小八故意让yao表现得很废柴就是为了逼走ZSMJ。但是我们来看一下ZSMJ的取代者塞拉在TI3后发生了什么。塞拉绝对没有完全断绝和DREAM四人组的联系，并且dream四人组之所以要逼走ZSMJ是简单的因为ZSMJ就是一个名不副实的菜鸡。

4. Many ppl say ZSMJ is a legend because he managed to refarm a scared relic in 7minutes after the courier is sniped and many boasted about his medusa gameplay. But when we look back it is definitely 2009 leadership that led to the team success instead of ZSMJ carry power. 2009 have to drag the game out in order to make space for zsmj to refarm and any decent carry will have done the same with a leader like 2009.

Thus in conclusion zsmj is definitely overrated and definitely shud nt be placed together with zhou and burning. maybe wait till he can qualify for a ti then we can talk about that.

很多人说ZSMJ是一个传奇因为7分钟遗物以及各种美杜莎的段子。但是当我们往会看的时候，09的领导能力才是带领他们走向胜利的关键，而不是因为ZSMJ一个人的力量CARRY住了全场。09为ZSMJ拉扯出了巨大的打钱空间，任何一个优秀的C在这种情况下都可以打出和ZSMJ一样的成绩。

总而言之ZSMJ绝对是被高估了并且绝对不应该和zhou burning相提并论。也许只有当他有资格进入TI决赛圈的时候我们才可以重新来讨论这个问题。

第二部分：国外玩家评论

1、Guy,you didnt know what he did in the past. I think he was the only one can be compared to Burning in the dota1 era. For me, Ehome vs LGD in 2009 is the best rivalry in all time of dota and dota2.

朋友，你不知道ZSMJ以前做过什么。我认为他是唯一一个可以在dota1时期跟B皇相提并论的人。对我来说。09年的爹妈大战绝对是dota和dota2史上最经典的对抗。

2、Ehome with burning is far more dominant den lgd.sgty and nirvana win more champions than lgd too which is led by zhou. So how zsmj is.

ehome和burning的统治力绝对比LGD强了，nirvana.cn在zhou的领导下也比LGD拿的冠军多，那么ZSMJ呢？

3、Bo1s are so random, VG are just probably lucky we'll see at bo3s im pretty sure they arent going to perform well.

bo1的偶然性太大了，VG可能只是运气好。我们可以看看BO3的情况如何并且我确信VG不会表现得太好。

4、I think you dont know the time when LGD (or FTD before) dominated Chinese scene (or even Asian with the champion of SMM 2008). They kept their dominant (even against Ehome they still normally won) until everything went around in ESWC Chinese qualifier 2009,when Ehome managed to defeat LGD and became Chinese reprenstative in ESWC that year. Everything after that we all knew,Ehome fucked the world without a single loss. The era of dominant of Ehome was after that. They won almost the tournament after ESWC 2009 to SMM 2009 (but dropped WDC 2009 because of some bad play of DTS). The world considered Ehome as the greatest dota team of all team. But no much ppl know they used to have a hard time against LGD. Unfortunately LGD didnt win a major tournament at that time like ESWC (maybe consider like the best tournament of dota).......

我相信你知道当LGD(或者说FTD）统治整个中国dota界的时候（也许甚至全亚洲，因为他们获得了SMM2008）他们保持了他们的统治性（即使在对抗EHOME的时候他们一般也都会赢）直到在09年的ESWC中国赛区EHOME打败了LGD从而取得ESWC总决赛资格的之后一切都变得不一样了。之后的事情大家都了解，EHOME在一场不败的情况下艹翻了整个世界。EHOME的统治时期是在那之后，他们几乎取得了之后所有世界大赛的冠军（除了在WDC上输给了DTS的神来之笔）。 全世界都认为EHOME是历史上最好的DOTA战队，但却没有太多人知道他们曾经有一段相当困难的时间在对抗LGD。不幸的是LGD没有赢得一个像ESWC这样有说服力的冠军（当时ESWC应该是最重要的DOTA赛事）。

5、So much hate on ZSMJ on that wall of text of yours.

Anyway VG is doing good coz it's BO1. Most CN teams are fucking good when it comes to BO3. Now we will see what VG can offer from the UB. Will they really stand up to their results in Phase Three or are they just another LGD circa 2012 in the making?

你的留言对ZSMJ还真的是充满了厌恶。

无论如何，VG现在的情况很不错，因为那是BO1。很多中国队伍在BO3的时候都相当流弊。现在我们可以期待一下VG在胜者组的表现。究竟他们会继续这样的表现还是说他们只是另外一只TI2上的LGD。