「美帝键盘侠」莫雷曾报价司机｜报复还是有所图？

(9500.163.com) Never forget: Daryl Morey offered Dirk Nowitzki a Max contract in 2014 just to piss off Mark Cuban 永远忘不了：达雷尔-莫雷在2014年为了恶心马克-库班而给诺维斯基开出顶薪。 达到当天最大量API KEY 超过次数限制

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[–]NuggetsBioRam 1743 指標 1 天前

Morey if Dirk took the money

掘金球迷：如果德克接受了这个合同，莫雷的脸色一定就和这幅图一样。

[–]Rockets_JustAnotherDud_ 349 指標 1 天前

I wonder if that was how Cuban felt by taking Parsons

火箭球迷：我在猜库班当年抢下帕森斯时是不是一样的表情。

[–]Maverickshalfbrit08 153 指標 1 天前

Probably not. People have an extra tainted view of him now because of his time with the grizz, but his contract wasn't bad for his level of play on the Mavs.

独行侠球迷：可能并不是，人们对他有偏见是因为他在灰熊的表现，但是他在独行侠的表现应该算匹配得上那份合同吧。

[–]Rockets_JustAnotherDud_ 46 指標 1 天前

Exactly what I was thinking. Hard to know without that hindsight bias

火箭球迷：确实如此，实际上不开天眼你根本不会想到未来发生什么。

[–][CLE] Eric Snowggghhhhhh 30 指標 1 天前

Even the Grizzlies contract was generally well-received by the analytics-friendly media guys.

It’s very easy to retroactively analyze decisions, but there once was a time when we all thought Dwight + Nash + Kobe was an overpowered surefire Finals team. I also thought the Warriors were nuts for refusing to trade Klay for K Love.

Of course, this doesn’t apply universally. Everyone knew Mozgov and Deng were shitty contracts from the jump.

骑士球迷：甚至帕森斯在灰熊的合同在当年那个数据分析的年代也被认为是一个不错的合同。

有的时候颠覆，但是当时我们确实认为霍华德+纳什+科比是一支绝对的冠军球队，我同样也认为勇士不拿汤普森换乐福很愚蠢。

当然，数据分析也并不是完全没用，每个人都知道莫兹戈夫和邓的那两个合同就是垃圾合同。

[–]WarriorsHeyIJustLurkHere 96 指標 1 天前

OP's headline is misleading. The story doesn't say anything about how this was "just to piss off Cuban", it talks about how good a fit Dirk would be in Houston. Marc Stein reported that the Lakers offered Dirk a max deal, too.

Dirk was still good in 2014. He was coming off a year where he averaged 21.7 ppg on over 60% TS in 33 mpg. He didn't quite hit 50/40/90, but .497/.398/.899 is damn close (gets there if you round). His PER was his highest since 07-08. There were legitimate reasons to give him a max, especially when it was set pre-cap spike but would last into the years after it. Morey legitimately wanted him.

勇士球迷：实际上楼主的标题非常具有误导性，实际上这个事件和“恶心库班”完全没有关系，上述的那篇文章讲得都是德克到底有多适合休斯顿，根据著名记者Marc Stein报道，湖人也给诺维斯基提供了一份顶薪合同。

德克在2014年依旧非常棒，他那个赛季场均出场33分钟得到21.7分，真实命中率超过百分之六十，尽管没能得到180俱乐部，但是场均49.7%的投篮命中率、39.8%的三分命中率和89.9%的罚球命中率也很接近180俱乐部了，他的效率值也达到了2007-08赛季之后的最高值，确实有很多原因可以给他顶薪啊，而且当时正在重新设立工资帽但是顶薪却是用老工资帽算的，所以莫雷说不定真的是想要诺维斯基呢。

[–][MIA] Shane Battierdoyouunderstandlife 49 指標 1 天前

But he was 36 at the end if 2014. A max contract for a player that old is a bad idea to begin with, even for a player of Dirk's caliber. Granted, you're getting a guy who's is still productive and a great shooter, but you're digging yourself into a hole for 3-4 years

热火球迷：但是2014年他已经36岁了，想签顶薪未免也太老了吧，即使是德克，他确实很有产出而且也是一个不错的射手，但给了他顶薪不就意味着给自己未来3到4年挖了一个大坑嘛。

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[–]CavaliersJFKFC 655 指標 1 天前

I wanna take a peek at the timeline where this deal went through. Just a peek.

骑士球迷：我超级想在别的时间线里看到这笔交易到底能不能实现！仅仅就是猜想哈。

[–]LakersGanNing220 255 指標 1 天前

In another timeline (from NBA 2K13), Dirk left the Mavs and signed with the Bulls, when Rose and gang were still in their prime.

Carlisle and Cuban fcked up.

湖人球迷：在另一条时间线里（来自NBA 2K13），诺维斯基离开了独行侠然后和公牛签约，当时的罗斯还是巅峰。

然后卡莱尔和库班真的是日了狗了。

[–]KingsGeneralShepard 165 指標 1 天前

In another timeline (every NBA 2k) Dirk never re-signs with the Mavs and goes to the fucking Wizards or some stupid shit like that

但是只要是2K里面，无论哪一条时间线他都不会和独行侠续约，然后选择去奇才或者别的傻X队伍。

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[–][SAS] Danny GreenGee4442 230 指標 1 天前

Is there a rule in place that prevents crazy rich people outside the league from bribing players to either leave or stay with a team?

马刺球迷：有没有抵制特别有钱的人给球员们在私底下进行暗箱操作的规则啊？

[–][LAL] Lonzo BallEmmaTheRobot 525 指標 1 天前

We know they can't otherwise the nets would be good

湖人球迷：我们知道这实际上是不可能的，否则篮网就无敌了。

[–]BullsohgodwhydidIjoin 123 指標 1 天前

Yeah, but the most legitimate case of this happened with the Nets and Kirilenko.

公牛球迷：是的，但是大家都知道篮网和基里连科实际上有暗箱操作的。

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[–][LAC] Patrick BeverleyTatumBoomedMe 362 指標 1 天前

Honestly doubt Morey did that fr

快船球迷：老实说，我很怀疑莫雷到底有没有做这件事情。

[–]shoot_your_shot[S] 251 指標 1 天前

Are you saying you doubt Woj?

你在质疑Woj大神？

[–][LAC] Patrick BeverleyTatumBoomedMe 574 指標 1 天前

Im doubting Woj is even a real person tbh

快船球迷：我在怀疑Woj是不是个真人。

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[–]Knicksanditcounts 133 指標 1 天前

Morey also put out that poison pill contract for Jeremy Lin. I know it was designed to make it tough on the Knicks to match, though I'm not convinced he was thrilled when it worked.

尼克斯球迷：莫雷当年还给林书豪一份毒药合同呢，我知道这种合同是为了让尼克斯无法匹配报价，但是我也不敢说当时他给这一份合同的时候会不会战栗。

[–]RocketsMMO4life 85 指標 1 天前

He didn’t pay for the last few years anyways

火箭球迷：不管怎么说，那份毒药合同的毒药部分莫雷一分钱都没出。

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